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    PostSubject: Kidd to the Mavericks!   Wed Feb 13, 2008 2:50 pm

    Jason Kidd has quietly -- and not so quietly -- hoped for a trade to the Dallas Mavericks all season.



    No Kidding Around



    Jason Kidd, despite being a month away from turning 35, is still
    producing at a high level. Only two others, Magic Johnson and Oscar
    Robertson, have met his averages (below) over the course of a season,
    and they did so in their early- and mid-20s.




    Kidd by the numbers
    Career2007-08
    Points14.311.3
    Assists9.210.4
    Rebounds6.78.1
    FG Pct.40.1*36.6
    *Career worst




    Those hopes are about to realized, according to NBA front-office sources.

    Sources told ESPN.com that the Mavericks and Nets on Wednesday reached
    an agreement in principle on a Kidd deal after talks had seemingly
    stalled last week. If completed, the trade would be the NBA's third
    blockbuster deal of the month.
    Although sources say the teams are still sorting out final
    details, this deal was described as "imminent" by multiple sources
    close to the process after negotiations moved to an advanced stage
    Tuesday night. The deal -- salvaged from talks on a three-way trade
    with Portland that developed and fizzled quickly two weeks ago -- has
    Dallas sending 24-year-old point guard Devin Harris, veteran swingman Jerry Stackhouse, the expiring contracts of center DeSagana Diop and swingman Devean George and guard Maurice Ager to New Jersey for Kidd and forward Malik Allen

    .

    Sources say Dallas will also send the Nets the league-maximum $3
    million, the Mavs' first-round draft pick this June and a first-rounder
    in 2010.

    Stackhouse said his agent told him the trade would be completed.

    "Now I think it's pretty much a done deal," Stackhouse told The Associated Press.
    The Nets are expected to buy out Stackhouse's contract
    immediately, which could enable him to re-sign with Dallas if he waits
    30 days.

    "I feel great. I get 30 days to rest, then I'll be right back," Stackhouse said. "I ain't going nowhere."
    ESPN The Magazine's Chris Broussard reports that the Nets and
    the Mavs are likewise poised to complete a separate trade that will
    send swingman Antoine Wright to Dallas for a future second-round pick.

    Dallas had widely been considered the favorite to win the Kidd trade
    sweepstakes, despite the repeated attempts of Mavericks owner Mark
    Cuban to publicly dismiss the idea of parting with multiple regulars
    for Kidd. Cuban told several New York-based reporters before New Jersey
    beat Dallas on Sunday that a deal for All-Star floor leader would
    severely weaken his roster.
    "For us to make the numbers work in a deal like that, we'd have
    to trade away half the team," Cuban said. "We're not doing that, so it
    just doesn't work. And we like our team. We've got a lot of room for
    improvement and we hope to get better. But right now, I just don't see
    anything happening.
    Yet sources close to the process insist that the talks have
    heated up within the past 24 hours, with the Mavs still tantalized by
    the prospect of bringing Kidd back more than a decade after the
    pre-Cuban regime drafted him out of Cal, watched him share rookie of
    the year honors with Grant Hill in 1994-95 and then traded him to Phoenix on the day after Christmas in 1996.

    The Mavs' biggest reservation isn't sacrificing Harris, who signed a
    contract extension over the summer. Sources maintain that Dallas, while
    reluctant to part with one of Cuban's favorite players and its point
    guard of the future after signing Harris to, has been resigned for some
    time to losing Harris if it meant getting Kidd back.
    The greater hesitation, sources said, is that they would also
    have to part with Stackhouse and Diop, weakening Dallas' depth. Even if
    the Nets do waive Stackhouse and Dallas is able to re-sign him after a
    30-day wait, losing Diop is a significant blow. His departure would
    leave the inconsistent Erick Dampier as the Mavericks' only veteran center at a time when potential playoff foes like the Los Angeles Lakers (Pau Gasol) and Phoenix Suns (Shaquille O'Neal) are getting bigger.

    But Dallas appears more motivated than ever in spite of those concerns
    and the current lack of a third team to join in and broaden the trade,
    believing that Kidd -- although he turns 35 in March and is threatening
    to establish a new career low with his 36.7 percent shooting from the
    field -- is still a prime source of leadership and mental toughness.
    Kidd displayed those qualities in abundance during a strong
    summer with Team USA and those areas are well-chronicled weak spots for
    the Mavs, who followed up a historic collapse to Miami in the 2006 NBA
    Finals with a first-round flameout against Golden State after winning
    67 games last season. A point guard of Kidd's caliber, influence and
    experience would undoubtedly please the demanding Avery Johnson,
    reinvigorate a team that has been lacking energy and confidence. It
    would also supply Dallas' coach with a dangerous four-man core of Kidd,
    Josh Howard, Jason Terry and reigning MVP Dirk Nowitzki.

    Nowitzki is the player Kidd has had in mind when privately telling
    associates in recent months that he hoped to go back to Dallas.
    Although his desire to leave New Jersey had been suspected all season,
    Kidd didn't go public with that wish until late January, when he told
    ESPN The Magazine's Ric Bucher that it's time for him and New Jersey
    "all to move on" in separate directions.

    Kidd was acquired by the Nets in the 2001 offseason in a trade with Phoenix featuring Stephon Marbury.
    He sparked New Jersey to the most successful period in the team's NBA
    history, starting with back-to-back trips to the NBA Finals in 2002 and
    2003. After giving strong consideration to signing with San Antonio in
    the summer of 2003, Kidd elected to stay with the Nets. During the past
    four-plus seasons, however, New Jersey has not advanced past the second
    round of the playoffs, despite the 2004 arrival of Vince Carter and Kidd's successful recovery from microfracture knee surgery.

    The Nets were prepared to deal Kidd to the Lakers at the trade deadline
    last season but pulled out of the deal when the Lakers refused to part
    with center Andrew Bynum,
    who has since blossomed. This deal would give them a highly rated point
    guard who's 10 years younger than Kidd and three cap-friendly contracts
    if the Mavericks indeed include Ager.
    The Nets could come away with even more salary-cap relief if
    the Mavericks built their trade package around Harris and a
    signed-and-traded Keith Van Horn.
    Although he has been out of the game since the end of the 2005-06
    season, Van Horn hasn't filed official retirement papers with the
    league, allowing Dallas to retain his rights. And because Van Horn's
    final NBA salary was nearly $16 million, Dallas can re-sign him for a
    substantial amount and thus create a lucrative expiring contract for
    the Nets, because only the first year of a contract must be guaranteed
    in a sign-and-trade arrangement.
    Cuban, though, told ESPN.com last week that "we won't use [Van
    Horn] in any deal for anyone." That's because Kidd would cost the
    Mavericks nearly $40 million next season, thanks to the luxury tax, if
    they sent only Harris, Van Horn and salary-cap filler to the Nets.

    Marc Stein is the senior NBA writer for ESPN.com. Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.




    Good deal for Nets IMo.

    Whatcha think?

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3244102
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    PostSubject: Re: Kidd to the Mavericks!   Wed Feb 13, 2008 2:58 pm

    good trade for both teams I like maurice ager and devin harris 2 first rounders are nice.......and the Mavs are now in the top teams in the west with LA, SA, and Phoenix
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    PostSubject: Re: Kidd to the Mavericks!   Wed Feb 13, 2008 3:00 pm

    wow Mavericks gave up a lot.

    Devin Harris is a beast, a growing star in the NBA. Maurice Ager is another young player who could be good. and Stackhouse is a solid veteran player.

    Its a pretty fair trade i guess, but i think the Mavs gave up too much for Kidd.
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    PostSubject: Re: Kidd to the Mavericks!   Wed Feb 13, 2008 4:00 pm

    Stack prob aint gonna be a Net though.

    "Now I think it's pretty much a done deal," Stackhouse told The Associated Press.
    The Nets are expected to buy out Stackhouse's contract
    immediately, which could enable him to re-sign with Dallas if he waits
    30 days.
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    PostSubject: Re: Kidd to the Mavericks!   Wed Feb 13, 2008 7:16 pm

    I dont know what there going to do about Devon George using his no trade clause????

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3244818

    Quote:
    With the New Jersey Nets poised to complete a blockbuster deal to send Jason Kidd back to Dallas on Wednesday night, Mavericks reserve forward Devean George has unexpectedly exercised his right to block the trade. Sources close to the situation told ESPN.com that the teams verbally agreed to the deal earlier Wednesday and were preparing to submit the trade for league approval when George informed the Mavericks that he wouldn't consent to being included in the deal, which is his right based on a rare provision in his one-year contract.

    "Early Bird rights," a provision earned by being in his second year and on his second contract with the Mavericks, made the move possible.

    "We're not trying to hold things up or be difficult, but just like teams make tough decisions all the time -- about cutting players or making trades -- they do what's best for their team, and it's my obligation to do what's best for Devean," his agent, Mark Bartelstein, said, according to The Associated Press.

    "You don't want to stop teams from doing their business, but we don't feel like it makes sense at this time. He's starting right now and things are going pretty good."

    No Kidding Around

    Jason Kidd, despite being a month away from turning 35, is still producing at a high level. Only two others, Magic Johnson and Oscar Robertson, have met his averages (below) over the course of a season, and they did so in their early- and mid-20s.
    Kidd by the numbers Career 2007-08
    Points 14.3 11.3
    Assists 9.2 10.4
    Rebounds 6.7 8.1
    FG Pct. 40.1 *36.6
    *Career worst

    The deal -- salvaged from talks on a three-way trade with Portland that developed and fizzled quickly two weeks ago -- has Dallas sending 24-year-old point guard Devin Harris, veteran swingman Jerry Stackhouse, the expiring contracts of center DeSagana Diop and George and guard Maurice Ager to New Jersey for Kidd and forward Malik Allen.

    Sources say Dallas would also send the Nets the league-maximum $3 million, the Mavs' first-round draft pick this June and a first-rounder in 2010.

    Kidd was with the Nets in Toronto, but didn't talk to the media before the game. He and Allen were both inactive, along with reserve Antoine Wright.

    ESPN The Magazine's Chris Broussard reports that the Nets and the Mavs were likewise poised to complete a separate trade that will send swingman Wright to Dallas for a future second-round pick.

    Before Dallas' game against Portland on Wednesday night, Mavs coach Avery Johnson wasn't ready to call the trade complete.

    According to the Dallas Morning News, he said that many trades "get to the 20-yard line, inside the red zone, and don't get into the end zone."

    Asked if he thought the trade would go through, Mavs owner Mark Cuban said, "No, I don't think so," according to the newspaper.

    Harris, one of the keys to the proposed deals said, according to the Morning News, trades are "part of life. I'm just a spectator to the madness."

    Dallas had widely been considered the favorite to win the Kidd trade sweepstakes, despite the repeated attempts of Mavericks owner Mark Cuban to publicly dismiss the idea of parting with multiple regulars for Kidd. Cuban told several New York-based reporters before New Jersey beat Dallas on Sunday that a deal for All-Star floor leader would severely weaken his roster.

    "For us to make the numbers work in a deal like that, we'd have to trade away half the team," Cuban said. "We're not doing that, so it just doesn't work. And we like our team. We've got a lot of room for improvement and we hope to get better. But right now, I just don't see anything happening.

    Yet sources close to the process insist that the talks had heated up within the past 24 hours, with the Mavs still tantalized by the prospect of bringing Kidd back more than a decade after the pre-Cuban regime drafted him out of Cal, watched him share rookie of the year honors with Grant Hill in 1994-95 and then traded him to Phoenix on the day after Christmas in 1996.

    Stackhouse's agent told him he was on the move.

    "Now I think it's pretty much a done deal," Stackhouse told AP earlier Wednesday.

    The Nets were expected to buy out Stackhouse's contract immediately, which would have enabled him to re-sign with Dallas if he waits 30 days.

    "I feel great. I get 30 days to rest, then I'll be right back," Stackhouse said. "I ain't going nowhere."

    That might be more true than he knew.
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    PostSubject: Re: Kidd to the Mavericks!   Wed Feb 13, 2008 10:32 pm

    lol devean george holdin the tradeback
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    PostSubject: Re: Kidd to the Mavericks!   Thu Feb 14, 2008 6:54 am

    i just heard on ESPN that the trade is being "held off" can anyone confirm this?
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    PostSubject: Re: Kidd to the Mavericks!   Thu Feb 14, 2008 12:18 pm

    devean george has a no trade clause in his contract LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    PostSubject: Re: Kidd to the Mavericks!   Thu Feb 14, 2008 12:31 pm

    ^-._$*L*E*3*Z*Y_.-^ wrote:
    i just heard on ESPN that the trade is being "held off" can anyone confirm this?
    read my post Rolling Eyes
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    PostSubject: Re: Kidd to the Mavericks!   Thu Feb 14, 2008 2:11 pm

    I think the Nets got the best out of it with getting Devin Harris. Harris has the most potential out of all the players and many good years of successful NBA basketball ahead of him. Dallas might get a couple more years out of Kidd who is on the decline of his career.
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    PostSubject: Re: Kidd to the Mavericks!   Tue Feb 19, 2008 9:49 am

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3253107


    Now Official

    Nets Gets:
    Devin Harris
    DeSagana Diop
    Trenton Hassell
    Maurice Ager
    Keith Van Horn
    1st Round Pick in 2008
    1st Round Pick 2010
    $3 Million in Cash

    Dallas Gets:
    Jason Kidd
    Malik Allen
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    PostSubject: Re: Kidd to the Mavericks!   Tue Feb 19, 2008 10:55 am

    stupid trade for the mav's kidd got 3 more years in him max.

    and they gave up a lot fo young talent
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