MVP and CY Young Discussions

PaTs81MoSs · Subject: MVP and CY Young Discussions Wed Sep 03, 2008 5:28 pm

Its now early September and the regular season is nearing the beginning of the post season...

post who you you think SHOULD be the MVP and CY Young...
if you want u can post a condition say for example some1 should be mvp if his team makes the playoffs

u can update ur pick if it changes...
say right now u like Quentin but in a week u like Mourneau or Pedroia

AL MVP: Dustin Pedroia (he keeps it up he will win)

AL Cy Young: Cliff Lee (no contest)

NL MVP: Albert Pujols (Aramis is a close 2nd)

NL Cy Young: Tim Lincecum (C.C would win if he started in the nl)

STRiKER45 · Subject: Re: MVP and CY Young Discussions Wed Sep 03, 2008 6:03 pm

QUENTIN!!!! all the way, and yes, i a m biased

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AL MVP: Too Close to tell
NL MVP: (my fav player) ALBERT PUJOLS!!!!

AL Cy Young: Cliff Lee he doesn't even have to pitch the rest of the year
NL Cy Young: Brandon Webb .. but it's too close to tell

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CHEECH · Subject: Re: MVP and CY Young Discussions Wed Sep 03, 2008 6:22 pm

AL CY Young: Cliff Lee

NL CY Young: I really think that CC should be considering that he is 10-0 with a minuscule ERA since being traded with a no hitter, and pitching at least 8 in the majority of the games

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patriots3996 · Subject: Re: MVP and CY Young Discussions Wed Sep 03, 2008 7:08 pm

AL MVP- Youkalis
NL MVP- Pujols

AL Cy Young- as much as i love matsuzaka, cliff lee is just too good.
NL Cy Young- Lincecum

AL ROY- Ellsbury (Not having a great offensive season but has a lot of steals and is a beast defensively. it woulda been longoria if he didn't get hurt.
NL ROY- Soto

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HitMan52 · Subject: Re: MVP and CY Young Discussions Wed Sep 03, 2008 7:14 pm

I just feel that Tim Lincecum deserves the Cy Young. This guy would have 20 wins already if it wasnt for the Giants piss poor set up men in Tyler Walker and Jack Taschner (Tyler being the one who blew most of his wins)

The guy leads the league in strikeouts and leads the NL in ERA and he didnt take a half year off like CC did.

Cy Young is not a half year award. And Webb just blew his Cy Young chances by his last two starts and bringing his ERA over 3.00

Also Lincecum even outdueled Webb back in early August or Late July dont rememeber exactly with 13 Ks and 1 ER but of course Walker blew that game.

Also Linececum has more quality wins than Webb and CC who has played nothing but bum teams since the trade.

And how can alot of people forget about CC's pathetic AL record. The guy lost to the Royals twice, A's Twice, Rangers and Tigers once. He has a combined record of 15-8.

Lincecum record is really impressive because he has one of the worst offenses backing him up and yet he still has a 15-3 record.

Also just for a good story Scott McLain hit his first ML homerun today.

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PaTs81MoSs · Subject: Re: MVP and CY Young Discussions Wed Sep 03, 2008 7:35 pm

HitMan52 wrote:

And how can alot of people forget about CC's pathetic AL record. The guy lost to the Royals twice, A's Twice, Rangers and Tigers once. He has a combined record of 15-8

AL offense are tougher than the NL cuz of the DH

those teams with the exception of KC have good offenses...
especially Texas there #1... and u forget cleveland's offense is bad this year and didnt give C.C much support

also if Lincecum pitched in the AL his numbers wouldnt be where they are now, i think we can all agree the top AL offense are better than the top NL offense because of the DH rule

C.C is in the NL now and Lincecum is in the NL and were talking NL Cy Young so you should only look at NL numbers.... if u want you can say that Lincecum has more Ks and a better ERA for a longer duration, but dont bring C.C's AL numbers into the conversation cuz you cant compare that with Lincecum, its a different variable

PaTs81MoSs · Subject: Re: MVP and CY Young Discussions Wed Sep 03, 2008 7:46 pm

patriots3996 wrote:

AL MVP- Youkilis

im just wondering y u think Youk should be MVP

he has good numbers but he isnt even the mvp of the team nevermind the AL imo

the top 3 canidates in the AL are Pedroia, Quentin, Morneau

Pedroia is the most valuable player right now... he does it all, he hits for average, he hits for power, great with the glove, has a cannon of an arm and turns double plays that look impossible to turn, and has been stealing alot of bases lately

he hits in the #2 spot and still hits

.333 AVG|17 HRS|76 RBI

I know he doesnt hit 30+ HRS but for a 5'6" 2B he is pretty powerful

PtP · Subject: Re: MVP and CY Young Discussions Wed Sep 03, 2008 8:05 pm

AL MVP: right now I say Pedroia
NL MVP: pujols

AL Cy Young: Cliff Lee smilez

NL Cy Young: CC he has been the best in the second half of the season...........but im also a little bias cause he's still one of my favorite pitchers

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patriots3996 · Subject: Re: MVP and CY Young Discussions Wed Sep 03, 2008 9:17 pm

i'm not saying that pedroia isn't one of the top canidates but youk is hitting 315, 24 hrs and 94 rbi's. thats 7 more hr's and 18 more rbi's than youkalis for .009 avg. he is very valuable in the feild because he rarely makes errors and filled in for mike lowell at third which helped out a lot.

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HitMan52 · Subject: Re: MVP and CY Young Discussions Sun Sep 14, 2008 3:03 am

How about Tim Lincecum tonight.

9.0 IP 4 hits 3 BB 13 Ks CG SHO 2.43 ERA

17-3

His name is now Tim LinCyoung.

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CHEECH · Subject: Re: MVP and CY Young Discussions Sun Sep 14, 2008 3:37 am

CC has 5 more CG and has started 18 less games.. 2 more shutouts than timmy.. CC also has more k/9 than timmy and an era that is .84 lower than him too..

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footballmurf404 · Subject: Re: MVP and CY Young Discussions Sun Sep 14, 2008 3:15 pm

AL MVP- has to be Dustin pedroia having a great season!!
he something like 17 home runs this year and a like a high 300 batting average thats great for a second basemen and hes been clutch alot for the Redsoxs. Not sure about NL MVP.....

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TiTaNx10xViNcE · Subject: Re: MVP and CY Young Discussions Sun Sep 14, 2008 9:53 pm

AL MVP - Josh Hamilton
NL MVP - Ryan Howard smilez

AL Cy Young - Cliff Lee
NL Cy Young - tough one, but id have to give it to C.C even though hes only played half a season there

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xB-MiLL_2 · Subject: Re: MVP and CY Young Discussions Sun Sep 14, 2008 10:41 pm

AL MVP - Josh Hamilton
NL MVP - Albert Pujols/Berkman...howard dont got the BA, if he did...that would be unanimous
AL Cy Young - Cliff Lee
NL Cy Young - if lincecum gets those 3 wins, he gets it...its not going to be between CC, he only has 9 wins plus harden's ERA has been better than him...just CC eats innings...i maen, if ur going to win Cy Young in half a yaer, u need at least 14 wins.
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